I can’t learn unless I talk: conversations on race

In this episode, Havilah talks to Cindy Wang Brandt about the complexities of racial justice, how we can learn from others, and how not to be ‘that’ white person. Basically, it boils down to this: listen well. This is the first part of the conversation – tune in next week for the second half of the conversation.


Cindy’s website

Parenting Forward

Racial Justice Resources:

Black and White: Racism in America

Raising White Kids

YA Book Recs